UK Fishers: EU Agreement

Question

14:56:00

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To ask His Majesty’s Government what plans they have to improve outcomes for UK fishers after the current agreement with the European Union expires.

My Lords, after the end of the fisheries adjustment period set out in the trade and co-operation agreement, European Union access to UK waters, and vice versa, become a matter for annual renegotiation, as is typical between coastal states. We know that the EU wants a new multiannual access agreement. We will listen to what it has to say and will work tirelessly to achieve the best possible outcome for the UK economy and coastal communities.

My Lords, there have been alarming reports in the press that our European friends seem intent on securing and even improving their access to our exclusive economic zone fisheries ahead of any negotiation of other issues. Can the Minister confirm that this Government will not only defend but substantially increase the quota position of our fishermen in our waters ahead of the 26 June deadline?

Clearly, as a Government, we will always push for the best opportunities for our fishers and the fishery industry. We would like to see long-term strategies to provide the industry with greater stability, which is important to it. At the same time, it is important that we always follow scientific advice when developing negotiations and catch limits.

My Lords, is the Minister aware that, last week in the other place, the Conservative shadow Environment Minister admitted that the previous Government’s negotiations failed our fisheries? Does she agree that a rollover of the current system will fail them again? Can she tell the House what consideration the Government are giving to proposals from the Liberal Democrats to roll out a multiyear quota system that would help the industry to plan for the future and stop the current cliff edge?

As I just mentioned, we need long-term strategies to give greater stability to the fishing sector. We are also very keen that we develop our policy in this area by working with the industry and talking to fishers and their representatives, so that they have direct input into how we move forward and that we understand, from their perspective, how best we can support them.

My Lords, given the overriding importance of reaching an early agreement with the EU on defence and security, does the Minister agree that the right way to handle the issue of fisheries with the EU at this stage is to use the 19 May EU-UK summit to agree to a joint commitment to find a mutually agreeable solution on fisheries within a particular time well ahead of the 26 June deadline?

As I made quite clear, we intend to negotiate with the EU in the best interests of the fishing industry and to protect our fishing communities. However, due to the nature of the current negotiations regarding the EU reset, I am not in a position to give any further information about what we discussed at those meetings.

Does the Minister share my concern that fishers have lost 10% of their grounds through energy use, particularly through the Great British Energy Bill? How does she intend to address this spatial squeeze and ensure that the fisheries’ grounds loss is not permanent but will be compensated?

I am sure the noble Baroness is aware—because we have talked about it in relation to other issues with Defra—that we are working closely with other departments in this area, including DESNZ, to address exactly the kinds of issues she raises. I will go back to the department and talk to my colleague the Fisheries Minister, Daniel Zeichner, specifically about the point that she just raised.

My Lords, I am sure the Minister knows that we have French and Danish fishing fleets not only fishing in our waters, as per the agreement, but bottom trawling in our marine protected areas. Are the Government going to start protecting those marine protected areas, or shall we call them something else?

The Government are looking with different groups and industry to increase protections across MPAs and at the best way to move that forward. Around 100 of our MPAs have by-laws which are in place to protect designated species and habitats from fishing gear that we know is damaging, including bottom trawling. As I have said before, we are looking at how we can move forward in this area.

My Lords, the Fisheries Minister is looking at better matching the fish we catch in UK waters with what we eat as a nation. Given that the Government spend more than £5 billion on food procurement, can the Minister confirm that they are doing everything possible to support UK fishers and farmers in their procurement?

We have said before in the House that we intend to hugely increase local procurement of food by government departments, hospitals, prisons, schools and so on. Clearly, fish is part of that, as is locally produced food from our farms. We are very keen to move that forward at pace and are currently looking at how best to do that.

My Lords, given the urgency and general importance of an agreement on security, has this in any way been made dependent on an agreement on fisheries?

Not to my knowledge.

My Lords, will the Minister confirm that, following the trade and co-operation agreement, the Government will enter into post-2026 fisheries issues at the time laid down for that and not at any artificial date, and that they will negotiate in good faith and in good time on that timetable and not on any artificial proposal to advance that date?

We will always negotiate in good faith. Regarding any new negotiations, we do not have any talks with the EU currently scheduled. We are content with the existing agreement and with the full and faithful implementation of the TCA post-2026 fisheries access arrangements. However, we will of course listen to the EU and the industry, and we intend to continue to protect the interests of UK fishers.

Can the Minister comment on recent reports that our fishers are using heavier ropes to avoid snagging mammals, whales, dolphins and creatures of that ilk?

I am not aware of any such reports. If the noble Lord would like to share them, I would be very happy to see them. Regarding mammals being caught, we are proceeding with electronic monitoring to get better data. The reports that come in are probably only the tip of the iceberg of the number of mammals that are affected.

My Lords, sadly, the fishing industry and fishing men and women felt very sold out by the last Government. Will His Majesty’s Government now commit to always putting the needs and aspirations of British fishermen and fisherwomen above and beyond those of French fishermen and fisherwomen?

As I previously said, we will be very robust in any negotiations and discussions. It is important that we support our fishing industry and get the best outcomes that we possibly can.

My Lords, is not it important, amid all the intricacies of any discussions that are going on, to remember that we are a sovereign state with our own territorial waters for which we are responsible, and that that is an infinitely better position to be in than when we were members of the common fisheries policy?

I completely agree.

Will the Government remember the inshore fishermen, particularly the Scottish inshore fishermen, whose interest is rapid access to continental markets for their high-value product, and who were so badly Frosted by the previous Administration?

The difficulty with negotiating for fisheries in the UK is that it is such a diverse industry. For example, fishers in Scotland will have very different needs from fishers in Cornwall—from those who may be catching crabs and lobsters to those who are after cod and pollock. It is a very complex area. The outcomes report on sustainability of fishing stocks, for example, is an extremely complex read—if anybody fancies it, I can provide them with a copy. But I completely take the noble Lord’s point, which is why we are very keen to work with industry to properly understand what it would like to see in the future.

Does my noble friend the Minister believe that we have sufficient ships looking after our territorial seas and our exclusive economic zone—fishery and the things on the seabed—or does she believe, looking at the SDR, that we should get an increase?

I am not certain that we would ever have enough ships for my noble friend to be satisfied.